quote: Originally posted by: Kate KirstyJane- may I congratulate you on your excellent choice. Anton and Lesley MUST win the CDO."
Please just call me Kirsty the only reason I'm KirstyJane is because Kirsty was already taken.
Anyway you might have to take your congratulations back I've sort of swapped my allegience I want Martin and Erin to win most now but I wouldn't be upset if Lesley and Anton won, whatever happens it cannot be Brendan and Natasha
Could you not see your way clear to voting for Anton and Lesley too? I think Martin and Erin are definitely the outsiders in the CDO and I can understand you wanting to vote for them but really think it's probably a waste of time. But you never know, they could surprise us all. As for Natasha and Brendan winning, the only way that that will sit happy with me is if I view their win as a win for SCD1, ie. they represent all the dancers on SCD1 and the series itself, which is still, in my view, the original and best.
I just can't decide!! My alliegance lies with Brendan and Natasha - of course - but I just can't seem to decide, I really was so gutted for Aled and Lilia when they went out (when they shouldn't have done, in my opinion) so I really want them to have a slice of the 'winners cake' even if it's just the Xmas special and not a whole series. That's a totally emotion based response, I know, and it should be whoever dances the best on the night but.... don't we all base so much of our responses on emotion when it comes to SCD??!
I haven't voted yet.... I'll see if I finally give in to my heart or my head!
quote: Originally posted by: LW3179 ", I really was so gutted for Aled and Lilia when they went out (when they shouldn't have done, in my opinion) so I really want them to have a slice of the 'winners cake' even if it's just the Xmas special and not a whole series. :"
And how about Anton and Lesley...they suffered the same fate as poor Aled!!!! (Plus if the BBC had realised that in a final with 2 couples the judges vote meant nothing in Series 1 then Anton and Lesley would have been in the final too...so doubly missing out!!!!)
Nat, you are right to say that lesley and Anton were unjustly eliminated from SCD1. I think that both Lesley and Anton, and Aled and Lilia deserve to win the Xmas special.
quote: Originally posted by: Kate "Hi Kirsty Could you not see your way clear to voting for Anton and Lesley too? I think Martin and Erin are definitely the outsiders in the CDO and I can understand you wanting to vote for them but really think it's probably a waste of time. But you never know, they could surprise us all. As for Natasha and Brendan winning, the only way that that will sit happy with me is if I view their win as a win for SCD1, ie. they represent all the dancers on SCD1 and the series itself, which is still, in my view, the original and best. But I digress... VOTE ANTON AND LESLEY"
I'll tell you what I'll vote once for Lesley and Anton and twice for Erin and Martin I can't help it I really want Erin to win something (its all about her not Martin) but I do agree they are outsiders and it would take a near miracle for them to win
I think that Natasha would have found it quite difficult to beat Jill and Darren and Denise and Ian if they had all been in the same show. Overall , the standard of series 2 was higher, with 3 celebrities who actuallly learnt to dance well. If Sarah had been able to put in more effort then she looked as if she would have been more than a passable dancer and probably in the semi instead of Julian or Denise. I would like to see Aled and Lilia win if only because her routines are so good and the effort they have put in is huge, more hours trained than anyone up to the semi, and also because musiaclly he is far and away the best of them all, he has for the music and that shows in his dancing.
Kirsty- that is very generous of you. Big thank you. It probably would take a miracle for Martin and Erin to win, but Anton and Lesley have more of a chance. As Anton and Erin are each others professional dance partners it would be nice for them if one of them won. Both have taken bronze with their celebrity partners. Let's help them go for Gold!
And what on earth has happened to this poll? Jill and Darren have leapt ahead. It wasn't like that last time I looked. Jill is just fresh from her victory in SCD2. Any more excitement and she might explode! That and the fact she's just won a part in Chicago, me thinks she's had enough early Christmas presents. She seems like such a nice girl, you wouldn't want all the success to go to her head would you!?
VOTE ANTON AND LESLEY because it's the only decent thing to do.
I may as well suggest Denise and Ian because she's had such a rough time and it would mean a lot to them to win a public vote. But realistically I would prefer Natasha and Brendan to win rather than Jill and Darren. However Aled & Lilia and Lesley & Anton deserve it too because they were voted out so cruelly - oh I don't know, so indecisive - they all rock!
I think that all of them deserves to win for different reasons, i would love to see Natasha and Brendan win it however if not them then either Aled and Lilia or Lesley and Anton
quote: Originally posted by: Kate "Kirsty- that is very generous of you. Big thank you. It probably would take a miracle for Martin and Erin to win, but Anton and Lesley have more of a chance. As Anton and Erin are each others professional dance partners it would be nice for them if one of them won. Both have taken bronze with their celebrity partners. Let's help them go for Gold!
I agree it is decent of me , but lets face it my phone bill is gonna be huge anyway one more phone call is hardly going to tip it over the edge I wanna change my vote in the poll though coz nobody has voted for Erin and Martin, they deserve to have at least one vote and yes I agree as professional partners it would be nice for either Erin or Anton to take gold- the other one has to have silver though! Natasha and Brendan,Jill and Darren have already won once, they don't need to win again
Ok, N&B fans are not going to like whats coming, but I was told this is the place to express any views or opinions so I'm going to go where no mans been before....(deep breath), here it goes:
I think it would be nice to see another couple win the Xmas dance off but (sadly) I also think a major percentage of the population will vote for Brendan and Natasha because of their 'chemistry'! Brendan is an ok dancer, NOT sexy, TOO self assured and cocky to the point of being arrogant - Natasha wears beautiful frocks, has an elegant image, acts coy ALL THE TIME (very annoying), and not a very good dancer!! IN MY OPINION the 'chemistry' is all the hooha about them OFF the show! The 'are they' or 'aren't they' kept many hooked on them and what was even more interesting was the fact that they had respective partners at the time! The press just loves a juicy bit of gossip - good publicity! 'Dance-wise' I don't think they are good enough to win.
Right, I've said it......and suddenly I feel like I'm in the firing line - alone!! I really should have worn my bullit prove vest first! If anybody knows my Mum, please tell her I wish to be cremated. Many thanks and despite our differences, it was nice knowing you all.
Don't worry we are not violent on here - you are safe!! I do disgaree though. I think Brendan is a fantastic dancer, and I'm not just saying that because I think he's cute! I can see why soem people would see him as arrogant, but I don't think he is. You're right that if it was purely on technical dance ability then Jill and Darren should win, but part of a performance is the chemistry between the couples, and whether that comes from speculation about their private life or not, the fact is that Brendan and Natasha do have it, and that makes their performances really great to watch.
quote: Originally posted by: letrightbedone "Ok, N&B fans are not going to like whats coming, but I was told this is the place to express any views or opinions so I'm going to go where no mans been before....(deep breath), here it goes: I think it would be nice to see another couple win the Xmas dance off but (sadly) I also think a major percentage of the population will vote for Brendan and Natasha because of their 'chemistry'! Brendan is an ok dancer, NOT sexy, TOO self assured and cocky to the point of being arrogant - Natasha wears beautiful frocks, has an elegant image, acts coy ALL THE TIME (very annoying), and not a very good dancer!! IN MY OPINION the 'chemistry' is all the hooha about them OFF the show! The 'are they' or 'aren't they' kept many hooked on them and what was even more interesting was the fact that they had respective partners at the time! The press just loves a juicy bit of gossip - good publicity! 'Dance-wise' I don't think they are good enough to win. Right, I've said it......and suddenly I feel like I'm in the firing line - alone!! I really should have worn my bullit prove vest first! If anybody knows my Mum, please tell her I wish to be cremated. Many thanks and despite our differences, it was nice knowing you all. "
Here, here! The voice of reason! I am no longer a voice in the wilderness! No disrespect to either Nat or Bren (nothing against them as people) but I think their 'performances' have been overrated. There are other couples in the CDO - and I don't necessarily just mean J&D! - who have the capacity to dance them off the floor on the night! Let battle commence!
PS. Letrightbedone, I have a spare flak jacket if you're interested!
As someone b4 said, xmas is a time 4 peace and goodwill.....launching personal attcks on the dancers isnt very nice! lol....i know its not that bad, but A+L, M+E, A+L, J+D and D+I fans remember no-one says anything nasty about them on their boards ! lol
quote: Originally posted by: laura ox natasha fan xo "As someone b4 said, xmas is a time 4 peace and goodwill.....lunching personal attcks on the dancers isnt very nice! lol....i know its not that bad, but A+L, M+E, A+L, J+D and D+I fans remember no-one says anything nasty about them on their boards ! lol Dont all shoot at once!!!!! lol "
There are no personal attacks lunched here! LOL! And yes, Christmas is a time for peace, goodwill and talent triumphing over hype! Only joking! For me it simply boils down to the fact that Nat and Bren do nothing for me. I don't dispute that there are scores of people out there for whom this pairing does a lot. I'm just not one of them! For my money - while J&D are technically the best pairing in the contest - the only other couple in the CDO capable of giving them a run for their money in terms of impact and performance is Lesley and Anton. There! I have come out of the closet and declared my interest!
Originally posted by: Halfpenny Hustler No disrespect to either Nat or Bren (nothing against them as people) but I think their 'performances' have been overrated. There are other couples in the CDO - and I don't necessarily just mean J&D! - who have the capacity to dance them off the floor on the night!
Letrightbedone, I have a spare flak jacket if you're interested!"
quote: Originally posted by: letrightbedone " Absolutely - my point exactly. HH, I think you're very funny - you're just fab!"
Thank you Letrightbedone! You're not so bad yourself! But with regard to the 'fab' bit, don't go repeating that to the Nat and Bren fans! I don't think they'd agree! Certainly not by the time they'd finished having me tarred, feathered and strung up from the nearest lamppost!
quote: Originally posted by: letrightbedone "Ok, N&B fans are not going to like whats coming, but I was told this is the place to express any views or opinions so I'm going to go where no mans been before....(deep breath), here it goes: I think it would be nice to see another couple win the Xmas dance off but (sadly) I also think a major percentage of the population will vote for Brendan and Natasha because of their 'chemistry'! Brendan is an ok dancer, NOT sexy, TOO self assured and cocky to the point of being arrogant - Natasha wears beautiful frocks, has an elegant image, acts coy ALL THE TIME (very annoying), and not a very good dancer!! IN MY OPINION the 'chemistry' is all the hooha about them OFF the show! The 'are they' or 'aren't they' kept many hooked on them and what was even more interesting was the fact that they had respective partners at the time! The press just loves a juicy bit of gossip - good publicity! 'Dance-wise' I don't think they are good enough to win. Right, I've said it......and suddenly I feel like I'm in the firing line - alone!! I really should have worn my bullit prove vest first! If anybody knows my Mum, please tell her I wish to be cremated. Many thanks and despite our differences, it was nice knowing you all. "
Don't worry, you are not the only one with that oppinion... there are more people in this board that agree with what you say... We are a minority at the moment but we exist...
I totally I agree that Natasha is not a good dancer and very annoying, but I'm afraid I think Brendan is a brilliant dancer... I've seen him many times dancing with Camilla and that is really something to write home about...but with Natasha, he just can't dance and doesn't look good at all...and the so called "chemistry" is as you say all about the gossip...
There are better dancers in the Christmas Special and they deserve the title much more than B + N do!
Yaaayyyyy! Another one declares herself as indifferent towards the charms of La Kaplinsky! We are a growing force and one to be reckoned with. I'm afraid the coy manner and the winsome looks to camera don't have me taken in! I do wish people would think and not just go by surface appearances! In order to make it as a newsreader La Kaplinsky will have had to develop a tough exterior and the ability to unflinchingly elbow her colleagues in the ribs whenever the next shot at promotion came up. To get where she is today will have taken one tough cookie! She has already proven herself adept at media manipulation with the aftermath of SCD1. The Starbucks 'I'm a celebrity who values her privacy but I just happen to have chosen a window seat!' incident is a prime example! Don't be taken in by the soft femininity and the protestations of innocence! That carefully constructed exterior conceals quite a calculating character in my opinion! And I'm not taken in by any of it for a second!
I agrree with the above statements don't forget ~Jill and Darren are technically better dancers and they got consistently better marks than B+N so the judjes will mark them higher you would think, however there may be a twist in the tail rumour has it Aled and Lilia are dancing to Aled 's big hit walking in the air so he could get extra marks if he sang along while he danced after all he would be doing 2 jobs plus he is a better singer than the ones that are normally on, it would help him win also
The "rumour" is Aled himself and was said in answer to questions at his concerts, at least twice now.He does a Q and A section in every show, mostly lighthearted.(He still has 4 left , last one TUES night!) He could be just joking of course but he also says lots of lifts and he may , just may be singing.He won't let on too much as it would spoil it, but it will be funny, the show not just he and Lilia. I'd guess they have something they want to prove especially after Arlene's comment and i would love to see them win and so would lots of others and it's 002 for them!!!!
I agree about Brendan and Natasha, media speculation and attention does wonders for the public profile!! and there are an awful lot of people here very taken up with what they are up to off the dance floor and assuming that any realtionship they may or may not have will make them somehow better dancers. than everyone else. Surely to be able to put across the whole story of the dance and NOT be embroiled in some on/off romance is more skilful and praiseworthy. Don't forget , Lesley really loves danceing and I know lots convinced they were involved!!! Whatever, it's a fun piece of Christmas entertainment , hopefully a cut above repeats and films we have all seen twice already. Let's all just VOTE ALED AND LILIA and enjoy ashow that will be all too short!!
Yes, you make a very good case! And you do it in such a nice, sugar-coated way that is beyond the likes of a contentious old stirrer like me! It is so much fun rattling a few cages from time to time but I do it in a light-hearted way with no malign intent! I don't know about 'Burrell-baiting' being a good pastime on the recent 'I'm A Celebrity', I think 'Brenda-fan-baiting' is much more fun! No, only joking! Loyalty is to be commended and in the end we all want the same thing out of the CDO - another 'fix' (as it's going to be a while before the next celebrity competition proper) and an hour's worth of entertainment. I just wish they had given us two hours' worth! Or maybe a week-long dance-off? Or even another series? I'm obsessing again, aren't I...?
quote: Originally posted by: Halfpenny Hustler "Yaaayyyyy! Another one declares herself as indifferent towards the charms of La Kaplinsky! We are a growing force and one to be reckoned with. I'm afraid the coy manner and the winsome looks to camera don't have me taken in! I do wish people would think and not just go by surface appearances! In order to make it as a newsreader La Kaplinsky will have had to develop a tough exterior and the ability to unflinchingly elbow her colleagues in the ribs whenever the next shot at promotion came up. To get where she is today will have taken one tough cookie! She has already proven herself adept at media manipulation with the aftermath of SCD1. The Starbucks 'I'm a celebrity who values her privacy but I just happen to have chosen a window seat!' incident is a prime example! Don't be taken in by the soft femininity and the protestations of innocence! That carefully constructed exterior conceals quite a calculating character in my opinion! And I'm not taken in by any of it for a second! "
You're right there are a lot of Natasha and Brendan fans on here, and not just because of the speculation over their private lives. We all have our favourites, but its one thing to talk about dance abilities and performances and quite another to make personal comments about people that you have probably never met.
quote: Originally posted by: Halfpenny Hustler "Yaaayyyyy! Another one declares herself as indifferent towards the charms of La Kaplinsky! We are a growing force and one to be reckoned with. I'm afraid the coy manner and the winsome looks to camera don't have me taken in! I do wish people would think and not just go by surface appearances! In order to make it as a newsreader La Kaplinsky will have had to develop a tough exterior and the ability to unflinchingly elbow her colleagues in the ribs whenever the next shot at promotion came up. To get where she is today will have taken one tough cookie! She has already proven herself adept at media manipulation with the aftermath of SCD1. The Starbucks 'I'm a celebrity who values her privacy but I just happen to have chosen a window seat!' incident is a prime example! Don't be taken in by the soft femininity and the protestations of innocence! That carefully constructed exterior conceals quite a calculating character in my opinion! And I'm not taken in by any of it for a second! "
I agree with you 200%. As I said in other posts before, I´ve allways found Natasha very fake, cunning and calculating, and no matter how much she tries to play innocent, I don´t buy it and think she knows exactly what she is doing. And I totally agree about the elbowing...
In any case, we are not the only ones to think this. I´ve read several post from other people saying the same things, specially in the Natasha and Brendan threads...and then there are lots of othe people that are not part of this board that think the same too. I know of plenty...
On the dancing, they really do not deserve to win as there are much better dancers and also more geniune people in the competition than Natasha.
I do think this is a little unfair - I know Natasha does sometimes give the impression on TV of being quite cold but she is really not like that. I have met her and I also know people that know her and it couldn't be further from the truth.
quote: Originally posted by: Sarah " You're right there are a lot of Natasha and Brendan fans on here, and not just because of the speculation over their private lives. We all have our favourites, but its one thing to talk about dance abilities and performances and quite another to make personal comments about people that you have probably never met."
Natasha is lovely! i wrote her a letter a while back, and i didnt even ask her to reply or for her autograph, but she wrote back anyway with a lovely letter!!! I know i havent met her, and i agree sarah i dont know why people are soooo mean about her, and they dont know her, neither do i, but theres no need for people saying horrible things about her!
we all shouldnt forget, its a friendly community here!!!! lol