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Were the correct couple voted out in the semi final? [71 vote(s)]

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Was it correct that Aled & Lilia were voted off in the semi finals?


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it should have been julian! i can't understand it! i would have thought aled and jill will get through and denise and julian would be in the bottom two. obviously, i was wrong! it just goes to say, expect the unexpected!

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Thought Denise and Ian would have gone due to public vote. But judges made sure that did not happen!!

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Aled and lilia did not deserve to leave tonight. dancing wise..........it should have been Julian and Erin


Personality wise and dancing wise it should have been denise to leave tonight


I still can't belive they went!!!!!!!!!



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ALED AND LILIA DID NOT DESERVE TO GO!!!!
NO WAY HOSE'!


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No way were the right couple leaving tonight!
It was a total farce , Aled can dance and He and Lilia were tremendous tonight.
The final should have been Jill, Aled and Denise .
Though I dislike Denise , she can dance, However I really think theere was somes core rigging going on there, Denise had to have top score or she would be out. and they really had ago at Julian at the end, justifiably I admit, but all it did was get him ahuge sympaathy vot

It must have been

Denise and Ian 4 + 1 = 5
Jill and Darren 3+3 =6
Aled and Lilia 2 + 2 =4

Julian and Erin 1 +4=5

Th judges shot themselves in the foot ther, trying despeartely to get adecent finaal no the farce it will be next week

Aled was the one to whom this meant the most and the one who has given the most in many ways .

Totally not the right couple and it was definitely rigged for Denise to get through

and aled and Jill with them , no need to rig that. Didn't work out Len and Arlene , did it ?

did you notice the poor tango from Jill?, didn't even look like a tango and a good excuse to give Denise so much more, they were making a point tonight and got caught out. I'd even suggest that Jill and Darren deliberately did a poor tango, darren is a tango specialist he should know it well enough, just look at Lilia's fab routines too, they were magnificent,

It was a tottl injustice.


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Whilst I agree with a lot of what you say bv I don't think you can say J&D did a "bad" tango on purpose...Really it would have been too risky.

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A gross miscarriage of justice has been done


If EVERYONE voted  had voted on dance ability alone then Julian should have been a cast Iron certainty to go,  but no they didn't.......so what has happened we have got another " christopher parker " in the final some one who cannot hold a candle to the rest. Aled could have been right up there in the final. ...............IT IS A DANCE COMPETITION  DO NOT FORGET THAT!!!!.


Denise and Ian deserve to be there on ability,as do Darren and Jill, It should not have come down to personalities, but that is what this has become a personality contest and people seem to have a go at denise for this, they are forgetting she has mastered the majority of these dances,Julian looked pathetic last night in that jive. I hope all of you who voted for julian last night have a massive rethink about how you are voting, andalso get off denises's back. I for one now the little welsh wizzard has gone will hope she wins!!


I know this will upset a few people but I had to get it off my chest



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Aled and Lilia deserved to be in the final. It was completely down to the judges that Denise and Ian stayed in. They will be third in the final next week, with Julian second. Another 10 for Jill.


Aled to win the christmas dance off!!!



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I agree let's start a campaign for Aled to win the Xmas dance off after all B&N won the first series, thy have at least one some thing

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Ian and Denise were fantastic last night - they deserve their place in the final Disappointed that Aled has gone - should really have been Julian - despite the entertainment he has brought - this is a dance contest.



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Originally posted by: ruth c
 I for one now the little welsh wizzard has gone will hope she wins!! I know this will upset a few people but I had to get it off my chest"

Hear,hear...!!! With you on this Ruth, glad someone's brave enough to say so (on a Sunday morning)


Should've been J&D, D&I and A&L


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I agree with you bv.


It's not that Julian stayed, although I am of the opinion he was the worst last night. To me the suspicious part of all this is the way Julian was one of the first 2 through to the final.


As you correctly point out this means Julian must have had the top voting from the public!!!


Denise and Ian 4 + 1 = 5
Jill and Darren 3+3 =6
Aled and Lilia 2 + 2 =4
Julian and Erin 1 +4=5


I worked the figures out the same way. So the conclusion must be that either the British public have collectively lost their marbles or voting is taking place that has little or nothing to do with actual skill. Either way it has detracted from what, up to now, has been a great piece of Saturday early evening entertainment. As much as we all like Julian and find him funny, surely this was not correct. I have checked the amount of bets laid on Aled on the major exchanges and there hasn't been enough to warrant the cost of rigging by calls (25p per) so that factor can be discounted.


Perish the thought that certain sectors of our liberal community have made sure that Julian goes through, the final next weekend should make interesting viewing when the voting starts!



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I disagree that Julian should not have made the final. I don't think this is purely a dancing competition. I think that the viewing public will ultimately put all other factors aside and vote for the best dancer to be the overall winner (like they did last series), but people also want to be entertained on a Saturday night, and also like to see the transformation of complete non-dancers into great dancers. I think both of these apply to Julian, so I'm thrilled he's got to the final.


I would have loved Aled to have been there too but I think his problem was that he was so brilliant in the cha-cha the first week that there was never going to be as much scope for improvement as with Julian, so his development from week to week was slightly less interesting to watch. 



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Shocking result, total miscarriage of justice!  Aled deserved to be in the final, Julian cannot dance well enough to justify a place. 

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Crazy crazy crazy, absolutely shocking Aled was voted out. Julian should have definately been in the bottom two and cant believe he must have got the highest viewer vote. Thought this time round we would rightfully all have actual dancers in the final. Because it looks like he got the highest viewer vote, he could actually win this whole thing which would be a complete travesty!


And as for it being rigged for Denise to go through, I'm glad the judges made sure she got through, because they can see the british public haven't been voting fairly for her. I think her scoring was fair because she performed consistently well on both dances, whereas Jill dipped slightly on the tango, so she was the best on the night and thoroughly deserved to go through.


Dont let Julian win this thing please!!



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Originally posted by: Sarah
"I disagree that Julian should not have made the final. I don't think this is purely a dancing competition. I think that the viewing public will ultimately put all other factors aside and vote for the best dancer to be the overall winner (like they did last series), but people also want to be entertained on a Saturday night, and also like to see the transformation of complete non-dancers into great dancers.


 I think both of these apply to Julian, so I'm thrilled he's got to the final. I would have loved Aled to have been there too but I think his problem was that he was so brilliant in the cha-cha the first week that there was never going to be as much scope for improvement as with Julian, so his development from week to week was slightly less interesting to watch. "



Hear, hear!! You all say it's a dance competition, and if you look at Julian, he's made the most progress out of all the celebs in there. He deserves that place in the final, both Erin and he deserve it.


It's a shame to see Aled and Lilia go though, they were fabulous, another of my favourite couples.



-- Edited by Lise at 15:43, 2004-12-05

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I don't think the arguement is really about who got thru, just the way it happened. I'm glad to see there are others who find the maths in this all a little bit odd.

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Welcome to the boards Greg!!!!


Have fun posting!!!!


Roisin xx



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I can understand the view that Julian has improved the most throughout the series there is no denying that and therefore there is a view that his place in the final is derserved. However in the final I hope that dance ability does come through and the best dancer is the winner. Otherwise it is just another reality TV show, with the winner being the one liked the most, you might as well not bother with the dancing at all. I personally think that this is what sets the show apart from the others. Even though I think personality, improvement and chemistry are very important- at the end the winner should be the best dancer over the series.

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"I disagree that Julian should not have made the final. I don't think this is purely a dancing competition. I think that the viewing public will ultimately put all other factors aside and vote for the best dancer to be the overall winner (like they did last series), but people also want to be entertained on a Saturday night, and also like to see the transformation of complete non-dancers into great dancers. I think both of these apply to Julian, so I'm thrilled he's got to the final.
I would have loved Aled to have been there too but I think his problem was that he was so brilliant in the cha-cha the first week that there was never going to be as much scope for improvement as with Julian, so his development from week to week was slightly less interesting to watch. "


And you think that Aled did not entertain? exactly what programme were you watching!? julian dancing is as interesting as watching paint dry and nowhere near as entertaining. He developed from a plank of wood to puppet, sorry Julian but you know you cannot dance, you knew you should have gone "It's not right" at all . He should do the decent thing and walk.
And yes it is a dance competition and not a personality one. But that is what it became in Denise's case, no one liked her, this was all about people not voting for Denise, the judges wanted her in the final with Aled and Jill and feared her going, the ONLY way she would have gone through last night was to get top judges score, which she did. Unfortunately the jill and aled voters forgot to vote ! or rather thought enough people vote for them and didn't bother. It's my guess the public voted for Julian to keep out denise and Aled and Lilia were the victims, fo that is what they were.
Denise can dance, but Jill has the edge, Denise presents herself and not the dance.
Aled has developed , yes his first dance was very good , but he has improved and gained confidence and he does what a male dancer is supposed to do, display and support a lady, lilia looked great , he made her look good, erin moves around a posing Julian , the other girl pros had to do the same. if you call that dancing then you know little about it, that jive was adance?
julian did not deserve to be anywhere near the last 4, but it isn't his fault I believ the maths speaks for itself. Those judges were stunned last night, but not as guttedasaled and lilia, who danced their hearts out and got nothing in return , could any of the 9 man on the series so far do a 1/4 of what Aled did?
So you voted for julian , great, don't be proud of it . Last night's debacle may well have ruined the whole series, who would go on another show knowing they could work their socks off and get no rec ognition.?But Aled got more than that, he earned respect,, did you hear the booing?, he has new kudos, new confidence and 100 dates booked to sing next year. and admiration for the way he, and lilia conducted themselves last night. thye were both near to tears. I would have like dto be afly on the wall at BBC studios last night after the show ended.
julian could well win this but equally he will be humiliated next saturday, they will tear him apart, coz through their own fiddling, they got just what they didn't want in the final. the whole show became afarce in the making last night.

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I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. But for your information I was AT the BBC studios last night when the show ended and there was certainly no animosity or anything like that - Lilia was just upset to be leaving just like Lesley was when she left at this point last year. They were all really friendly to each other afterwards as I think they realise that it is only after all an entertainment programme that is designed after all to raise money for charity! And there was certainly no booing at any time last night apart from when the judges said discouraging things.


I found Aled very entertaining all the way through, and especially at the start when the other celebs weren't very good. I just find Julian a little more entertaining in some ways and the fact that he mas made such a massive improvement makes me want to vote for him (I don't see why I shouldn't be proud of it!?)., just as Jill and Darren (and Ian) make me want to vote for them for their sheer dancing brilliance.



-- Edited by Sarah at 21:44, 2004-12-05

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You misunderstand. I would never suggest that Aled Jones would feel animosity for Julian or anyone, to my own personal knowledge, that is not his way at all.

A fan is a fan is a fan for whatever reason , and I would not vote for Julian however much he improved , unless maybe he learned to dance as well as Aled. But he has done himself a lot of good being on the series.
And I disagree about people voting for the best dancer, they didn't on saturday, Denise was last. Julian may well win , and I personally think that would be wrong and would possibly mean an end to the whole show.
Chris Parker nearly did it last year. At least there will be a contest Saturday , but Julian won't be part of the dancing contest , just the voting contest.
Quite possibly Aled Jones took it all too seriously and it came to mean too much to him, all both of them wanted was the chance to be in the final, not to win just to be there and it is a pity they won't be as the show has lost it's only show man and the best couple , they suit each other well.


By the way, is it Julian or Aled who will be doing the Royal Variety Performance with Jill and Denise? I know he has panto commitments in Bristol, but then Aled still has about 20 dates left of his tour.


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definitely not!!!


Julian should have gone the week he did the paso doble and all he did was march around the floor - absolutely dire!


He was also way worse than Roger and Camilla last week - yes he's made progress but this is a DANCE competition not a vote for the one the judges are rude to competition.


I think if the judges (OK Arlene and Craig) were less rude and less blunt about the celebs and less obvious as to who they think should go, they would be more likely to get the result they want.


 


 


 



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I wonder if you were only allowed to vote after you had seen the performances would the result have been different, after all who would have voted for julian's dreadful jive against the rest of the dances, I am sure that people voted all week to make sure he stayed. the judges should have more clout into who stays and go's

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It might make a difference but then the BBC wouldn't make as money for the charities.

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"definitely not!!! Julian should have gone the week he did the paso doble and all he did was march around the floor - absolutely dire!      "
But that was the week that Diarmuid went out, and he was a lot worse than Julian.

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I think Julian deserves to be in the final as much as any of the other couples because he has worked so hard and improvement has been surprising, however i dont think Aled and Lilia derserved to go, but if they hadn't who would have


just my opinion Elle



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Denise can dance, but Jill has the edge, Denise presents herself and not the dance....Last night's debacle may well have ruined the whole series, who would go on another show knowing they could work their socks off and get no rec ognition.?But Aled got more than that, he earned respect... he has new kudos, new confidence and 100 dates booked to sing next year. and admiration for the way he, and lilia conducted themselves last night. they were both near to tears.


If the series was based on dancing alone you would be right... but it isn't - even as you yourself said, from this Aled has 'new kudos, new confidence (is minus a few pounds!!) singing dates etc. I think some one signing up for the next show (if there is one) would have to think very seriously about the publicity. To be a 'celebrity' is to invite that anyway but I'm not sure it did Carol Voderman too much good in the long run especially with her supposed comments afterwards.


Didn't they say on Saturday that they'd had the most votes so far - raising masses for charity which is the brilliant added bonus. I really really hope they do have another series - I think so far it is a winner for the BBC and they're not exactly going to put a stop to a good thing. As far as the BBC vs ITV for Saturday night viewing figures I think they're doing pretty well. I would be interested to know how many ITT attracts.


As far as A&L's tears - it is absolutely fantastic how much emotion is invested in this programme - from all sides! So many people are passionate about it - that's a great thing, to inspire passion. Here's to the Passion of the Dance!



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 Denise can dance, but Jill has the edge, Denise presents herself and not the dance.


you are absolutely right bv - this sentence says it all.  the judges comments on denise (tall, elegant, diva, etc) are compliments and praise to denise physically because that is what she is and i don't disagree, but jill has natural talent in dancing and has compatibility with her partner (and credit to darren for bringing out the best in her and teaching her how to execute her moves).


 



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